Talk:Pizza Tower

Highly Important Editor's Notes

This page was created by Wazameo, and major contributions were made by Trash_Bandatcoot.

We'll start with the basic stuff (such as the bob and prototype articles), and we can work from there.

Pizza Tower is a game with multiple demos and therefore has lots of unused content. But the pages also have other problems that need addressing.

First of all: Some content featured on these pages doesn't appear in the game data. An example is the song "Toxic Rave", as it was never put in the game. Therefore, make a separate page for things like early footage PTG posted, early music, or samples posted by the composers on Discord, Soundcloud and Bandcamp. Maybe we can write up a full development timeline, considering how much info about this game is available, from obscure sources to stuff posted in Thing of the Week.

Second of all: The content featured on the main page is from a much older demo. From what I've understood, Pizza Tower Guy's stopped releasing public demos, but I'm not sure. What we have here is a mismatch of Demo 1, 2 and SAGE content. Give the demos with unused content separate pages, and leave this page empty until the game releases.

Lastly: Don't post download links to any mods that let you access unused content. If you want to do this and think it's necessary, please post a video showing the unused content and put a download link to the mod in the description, not on TCRF to keep things more in-line with other articles.

As for Patreon builds, I think we need to create a sub-sub page for those since there's been lots of Patreon builds released. But that's still up for debate since the game yet has to finish development.

With that being said, I hope you understand that this page is a mess and some big changes need to happen before a moderator steps in.
Thank you for reading and have a great day.

(Strike-throughs are things that have either been done or confirmed.)

— The preceding unsigned comment was added by CounterDiving (talk • contribs)

Playable fake peppino

According to the wiki, you can actually PLAY as fake peppino! Busybody64 (talk) 15:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

splash.png

There's a mysterious image in the game files called splash.png, which shows a pizza type restaurant that's in Chicago.

It might've been used for the splash screen of some sort?

MarioGuyWasTaken (talk) 16:28, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Unused/Leftover Enemy Behaviors Page?

I know this goes against what the first topic says about mods accessing unused content, but I found that several enemies & objects have leftover behaviors from various proto builds when I was using a level editor mod (like the Grandpa Pepper enemy being defeated by the knight transformation, which is leftover from the builds where the Mansion level was present, and the Toppin Monsters roaming around freely from the then Kids Party level.) I want to know if it's okay to create a page about leftover enemy behaviors as I find this specific topic very interesting to cover. -Tresdor34 (talk) 20:50, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Missing content. Lots of it.

This page is huge, but lots of stuff is missing from it. I feel like to add on, use the Pizza Tower Wiki to help. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by LukeMSonic (talk • contribs)

the noise is gonna be playable at some point.

so wasn't there a trailer where the noise will be playable so don't we gotta remove him once he gets added or say this was is "old move set" - gggoldgamer Gggoldgamer (talk) 17:28, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Noise palletes

How would I add The noises palettes, would be as a direct subpage or in unused sprites or what? (I haven't made any major edits yet so idk) --Werdi (talk) 13:17, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

If you kept any release build v1.0.311 or older, you could perhaps include The Noise's old color palettes onto the revision sub-page and compare them to how they are in the current build. Notably, The Noise's color palette when selecting a patterned clothing was previously broken, as it made The Noise appear mostly invisible besides any re-used Peppino sprites and the whites of everything else (The patterned clothes on The Noise have been fixed in the Halloween update).

Nunof Yerbizness (talk) 00:23, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

The megaleak situation

So i saw a video of welp pizza tower related and non related stuff and i wanna know if this is true because it shows 2 new games and a playable mr stick. Gggoldgamer (talk) 22:25, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

The being-true-itude of the PT Megaleak isn't off the table, however I'd say hold off on putting anything related to it anywhere on the site (pre-release pages, etc) without concrete proof that it is real (Which, I highly believe it is.) Also, the leaked early music was not to be put on the Altered Music and Samples page, so even if it is real, I'd hold off on covering it in the base Pre-release page regardless. You know, be thoughtful, think about Tour de Pizza's feelings. (Though, I know for sure that the PT Community ain't against just randomly spreading leaks around like it's candy, grumble grumble...) Dg125 (talk) 22:57, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

ok but at the same time it looks like a bit to real to be fanmade but you are right so ima add nothing or change nothing in case this is fake. Gggoldgamer (talk) 06:37, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Its out

The noise update is here so what do we do with noise thats in the unused character section. Gggoldgamer (talk) 01:56, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Comics and sketches

There are SO many sketches and some comics that were made during the game's development... perhaps maybe those could be added? I mean I created the page for it in the prototype subpage so maybe that needs a lot, and i mean a LOT of work to be done --Goldenpizzapizza (talk) 17:21, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Wrong link, lol. You meant to link to the prerelease subpage. But, yeah, I understand needing to like, put all those concept sketches and shit SOMEWHERE. KurosurinTomasu (talk) 23:28, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh yeah my mistake lol but thanks 4 correcting me --Goldenpizzapizza (talk) 00:13, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Adding all (or most) of the unused stuff

One thing i noticed while digging around the data.win of the game (using UndertaleModTool) is that there's WAY more stuff than is documented, like unused tilesets, backgrounds, text strings, that kinda stuff and many more. This kinda stuff should be added, and even if we do have that stuff on here, there isn't enough mentioned. i think it's important to have all, or at the very least most, of the things here. anyhow that's just how i feel about what should be done --Goldenpizzapizza (talk) 15:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Yeah that's kinda the point of this site. I've found a ton of unused content through a decomp over the past few months but haven't done much due to the sheer amount of unused stuff + needing to check older builds to see if things are used or in the files there. Sometime this summer I'll get a second decomp (modded my current one a ton + don't really like UTMT) and start getting to work on documenting this stuff. --namespace (talk) 18:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

I know what you mean, im just saying more stuff should be documented, that's all --Goldenpizzapizza (talk) 19:02, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Early test build leftovers is incomplete — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billthecat321 (talk • contribs)

Early test build leftovers is incomplete

There is no images or stuff that present the leftovers from early test build

And it’s new — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billthecat321 (talk • contribs)

Wow, that's... super low quality. Maybe actually put effort into the page before publishing your edits next time? Or, better yet, READ THE EDITING GUIDELINES BEFORE EVEN MAKING A SINGLE EDIT?! -- KurosurinTomasu (talk) 17:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

There were more recent edits done. They were... not of the best quality. I don't want to assume that you're a child, but... -- KurosurinTomasu (talk) 18:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Games before release

Hey, so we know there's Pizza Massacre, Pizza Crawler, Weenie Cop, all that stuff. Should there be a subpage on the pre-release page that goes more in-depth about these games or is that not allowed? just askin' --Goldenpizzapizza (talk) 21:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Sure, that sounds reasonable. It should be noted that Weenie Cop did have a playable build released in 2020, so it probably should have articles of its own (but still mentioned on the PT prerelease in some compacity). I have gotten a start to a skeleton for an article here on my sandbox, so if you want to expand it/move it, go right ahead. --Mantis (talk) 22:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Aw sweet! Thanks a whole bunch. --Goldenpizzapizza (talk) 23:06, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Move the development timeline, perhaps?

Its me again... so i noticed the New Super Mario Bros page has its own subpage dedicated to its development history (or development info, as named on the page). I was wondering if I could move the dev. history on the pre-release page into its own subpage or if it would be unacceptable and would need to stay there. --Goldenpizzapizza (talk) 20:00, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

The timeline is fine as it is on the prerelease page. No need to move it. --Mantis (talk) 22:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Ok then, just curious. --Goldenpizzapizza (talk) 22:51, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Something I found in data.win of the game

Well I was researching in data.win checking some stuff out well when I went to check out strings I found two objects that aren’t present but their strings are left over here’s what I found. obj_noise_pushbutton obj_noisecrusher Well I know the sprites and objects associated for them were removed all except their strings. their sprites and object still existed in one of the demos until the eggplant build — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billthecat321 (talk • contribs)

Okay, lemme just say it.

1.) obj_noise_pushbutton was used from Early Test Build to Demo 2 to start Pizza Time. The Noise would waddle on screen, push the button, and the escape sequence would begin.

2.) obj_noisecrusher was an unused boss that was first seen in the March 2019 Patreon Build, originally situated in boss_room1. There's more info about it on the Pizza Tower wiki.

Hope that clears up some confusion! KurosurinTomasu (talk) 19:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

About "leftover pages"

This is a much more spur of the moment, no-thoughts-head-empty topic, but I had a thought about the leftover pages. Like, earlier, there was the spr_googlyeyes thing from ETB that I moved directly to the Proto/ETB page?

Would it make more sense to put "leftovers" that were actually used in builds like ETB, Desert, etc. into the mainspace leftovers page, and keep things that were unused in those builds, yet are still in the final game, in the Proto pages? KurosurinTomasu (talk) 19:12, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Though, now that I think about it, it'd be very very situational, like the obj_noisetrap_rock was never actually used in any builds (aside from a few indev videos,) and was probably added in the 2019 Desert build, but Oh there it is on the main Unused objects page. Still think what I'm thinking is an interesting idea. KurosurinTomasu (talk) 19:26, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Well I could move it to desert build leftovers

Billthecat321 (talk - Please remember to use "~~~~" to sign instead of manually signing every talk page edit you do.)

Do you not understand what I meant, William? What I am saying is objects like obj_noisetrap_rock were never used in the builds that they were "introduced" in, and thus don't really fit in the main leftovers page, and would probably fit better in an unused objects section in the prototype subpage instead. Of course, that would mean that the main page's unused objects/leftovers pages would become shorter, but objects that WERE used in the builds they were introduced in, yet were never used in the final game could go into a leftovers subpage.

Do you understand it now? Or was this explanation too complex? KurosurinTomasu (talk) 19:14, 17 August 2024 (UTC)