The 7th Saga

The 7th Saga
Also known as: Elnard (JP) Developer: Produce Publisher: Enix Platform: SNES Released in JP: April 23, 1993 Released in US: August 3, 1993 This game has unused areas. This game has unused enemies. This game has unused abilities. This game has unused text. This game has regional differences. This game has a notes page This game has a Data Crystal page

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To do: Add additional changes to the difficulty in the overseas versions. A few changes can be found from this webpage: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/563501-the-7th-saga/41960584

The 7th Saga is an RPG game which is infamous for the higher difficulty in the overseas versions which leads to tedious level grinding, so much so that a ROM hack was made to balance out the difficulty.

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Notes

Towns Cut from the Game

There are 4 additional towns (Guanas, Bijenia, Bulando, and Luze) which were cut from the final game. These cities have placeholders in the shop/inn data, of which is empty; it does not appear as if anything was ever implemented in these shop lists before these cities were cut.

The names of each city are able to be added to the Wind Rune list by hacking the game, but they are unfinished or not-working (or at least the Rune transfer coordinates were not programmed).

You can hack your Wind Rune list with the following Pro Action Replay code 7E50XXYY.

• XX is the slot number, the value for the first slot is E0. (I do not know how many slots there are but it goes well over the number of towns available.)
• YY is the town number.

These can be used to warp to any town from the present or the past. The values for YY (in hex) below are the towns removed from the game.

Unused Guanas	Guntz

• 0x23 - Guanas (a decently sized placeholder city, using Guntz's location data with palette errors and no loaded NPC nor transition data; perhaps Guanas (which is in the exact same position as present day Guanta and which is already able to be visited in the past under snowy conditions with only a few homes) was originally designed to be visited in the past even earlier before the snowfall on the northwestern continent).
• 0x24 - Bijenia (blank screen/soft hang)
• 0x25 - Bulando (blank screen/soft hang)
• 0x26 - Luze (blank screen/soft hang in the US version; in the JP version, it displays an extremely glitched ship cutscene then dumps you off in Bonro, still glitched, but can be fixed by exiting the town or entering a building. In the final game, Luze is only visitable in the present with all of the buildings being entirely ruined. It may have been the original intent to visit it in the past as an actual intact city. This would also suggest that more of the overworld in the past was intended to be used, whereas in the final game, about 50% of the world is not able to be normally visited).

There is also rune data for the rest of the cities of the past which are normally visitable. But since you do not have the Wind Rune normally in the past, these can never be used. These are:

• 0x1C - Pharano
• 0x1D - Pasanda
• 0x1E - Ligena
• 0x1F - Guanas
• 0x20 - Palsu
• 0x21 - Past Melenam
• 0x22 - AIRSHIP (in all caps); takes you to the downed airship on the final continent.

There is also a Wind Rune entry (value 0x1B) for "Gorfun" which teleports one to the Gorfun Cave entrance in the present. This is the only location present in the Wind Rune list that is not a city (or airship). However, Gorfun Cave also has empty shop/inn data, suggesting that perhaps Gorfun in the present was intended to originally be a town with the cave entrance being found in the town itself instead of directly on the world map.

Another entry is for Baran (value 0x11), the castle that is attacked by the Serpent long before your heroes visit it. The castle is never repopulated after you rescue the kids, and this warp point is never added to your list.

Value 0x19 is referred to as "ブランセル" (Vlancel) in the Japanese version, and is blank in the US version. It takes you to the Cave of Silence on the northwestern continent in the present. It is unknown exactly what use warping here directly could have served, since you can easily warp to Guanta nearby.

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Unused Enemies

There are about a dozen enemies still existing in the data which went unused in the final game. When the game is edited to call up these enemies into a battle, most of them do not have a battle sprite. (NOTE: It is uncertain if the sprites still exist in the game data and simply are not called, or do not exist at all). Most of their stats are 0 or default. With the amount of unused enemies, it is possible that these were intended for inaccessible/unfinished areas of the "past".

HEX ID / Name (Japanese(Translation)/English) / Notes

• 01 [no name] (no image, empty stats - may not have ever been intended to be filled).
• 0B トール(Thor)/Tall (no image, empty stats - in the Japanese game, the "demon" type enemies are called "Little Thor" and the "Undead" is called "Unde(ad) Thor". Therefore, it would seem that this should be a regular normal-sized one).
• 0C アサッシー(Assassi?)/Sasee (no image, empty stats)
• 10 デスリッチ(Death Lich)/Desrich (no image, empty stats)
• 12 ガデューン(Gadune?)/Kadoom (no image, empty stats)
• 13 ベザー(Bezar?)/Heysir (no image, empty stats)
• 14 ブラッス(Brass?)/Blasu (no image, empty stats)
• 25 [no name] (no image, empty stats)
• 2B ライトボール(Light Ball)/Lihall (no image, empty stats)
• 38 [no name] (no image, empty stats)
• 39 [no name] (no image, empty stats)
• 3A [no name] (no image, empty stats)
• 3B [no name] (no image, empty stats)
• 3C [no name] (no image, empty stats)
• 3F デバック(Debug)/Debag (HAS IMAGE, HAS STATS) (palette swap of gate/door type enemy; due to low stats ("1" in almost everything) this seems to be a monster intended for debug purposes rather than a pun).
• 45 デスハント(Death Hand)/D.Trick (HAS IMAGE, HAS STATS) (palette swap of Trick/Hand)
• 4B [no name] (HAS IMAGE, empty stats) (palette swap of Doros; has same split/division A.I. as Doros)
• 5A [no name] (HAS IMAGE, HAS STATS) (same sprite as when fighting Kamil in battle (Kamil's normal data is 5B); however, the stats and special abilities do not follow the normal apprentice data and they are very similar to the Griffan/Kashian enemy just above it (59)).

It should be noted that "Death Hand/D.Trick" and "Debug/Debag" are the only two unused enemies which appear in an unused set of battle formations, which may account for the reason why they have sprites appearing in battle.

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  Hacked Battle: Debug/Debag

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  Hacked Battle: Death Hand/D.Trick

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  Hacked Battle: [no name]

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  Hacked Battle: [no name]

Extra Enemy Encounters on Melenam Island

The game is not flagged to change the overworld map enemy encounter data from the "present" formations to the "past" formations until after the defeat of Gariso. Therefore, when using the Wind Rune hack to visit any of the cities of the "past" before this event, the enemy encounter data for the "present" enemies has not yet been changed over to the "past" formations. So when using the Wind Rune to visit the island of Melenam (YY=21) in the "past", the "present" enemy formations will still remain on the map even though you are in the past. Strangely, this reveals a set of enemy encounters in the "present" for the island of Melenam (which do not show up anywhere else), even though the island of Melenam does not exist on the "present" map. Given the absurd variety of the monsters, it's unlikely this encounter set was intended to be used. Most likely this region was used as a testing area.

Each area has a set of 8 possible encounters stored in the game data. These are the 8 formations for the "present" island of Melenam, which are normally not accessible:

1. Chimera / Trick / Titan
2. Coccoon / Soldiek / Spidek
3. Undead / Defeat / Orc
4. Manrot / Brain / Ghoul
5. Spirit / Crab / Griffin
6. Android / Sage / Wyrock
7. Flame / B.Night / Sword
8. Mutant / Manta / S.Witch

Unused Drop Set

There are 16 available item drop sets to determine which item an enemy randomly drops at the end of a battle. Apart from the few that are entirely blank, there is one drop set (0A(10)) which went entirely unused:

• Potion1 (1/16)
• Potion2 (1/16)
• Potion3 (1/16)
• [NO DROP] (1/16)
• MHerb1 (1/16)
• Antidote (1/16)
• M Water (1/16)
• V Seed (1/16)
• Pearl (1/16)
• Opal (1/16)
• Ansc (1/16)
• Psyte (1/16)
• Anger (1/16)
• B Fossl (1/16)
• Illus (1/16)
• Kryn (1/16)

Regional Differences

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• In the US version, the average stat gains per level for player characters were reduced compared to the Japanese version. This reduction was not applied to rival playable characters, who have the same growth calculation as in the Japanese version. This makes rival fights significantly more difficult.
• Player characters also grow and learn new abilities at a much slower rate in the US version.

• Lejes Rimul's (the Demon class) palette was altered in the North American release, presumably to add more contrast between his hair and skin (and also so he doesn't look like a male Twi'lek from Star Wars in battle anymore), and his horns redrawn to appear less demonic:

JP	US

JP	US

The red spot on his chest was also redrawn and changed in color to look more like an amulet for unknown reasons:

JP	US

• In the original Japanese version, Wilme Pelin (the Alien class) goes around nude. In the North American release, he was censored and wears a rag. His hair was also made a brand of 90's radical:

JP	US

JP	US

• Several enemy sprites have also been censored:

JP	US

This class of metallic Roman-style statue enemies, who have three palette variants total, fittingly combat in the nude in the Japanese version. They're covered up with somewhat unfitting rags in the US version.

JP	US

The scylla female monster had some ragged clothing painted on.

JP	US

In addition to this female monster boss (and her palette swap) being clothed and chitined, some touching up was done, with some legs being minorly redrawn or lengthened, and one of the chitin plates near the end of the tail section being extended.

• The floating sword enemies have been slightly redrawn with longer hilts, presumably to look less like a cross (!).

• The ghoul enemy type, once again, gained some britches.

• The final boss, Gorsia, was given a blue palette to replace his yellow one from the Japanese version. In addition, the rocky lower half of his body was redrawn to look less like legs and look more like fused rock for some reason. Why this was done is unknown.

One of the characters, King Lemele was originally called "King Shida" in the Japanese version.

• Many of the enemies had their stats increased in the US version:

(Note: For entries with two values, the left number is the JP version.)

HEX [ID]	Japanese Name [Translation]	English Name	Lv	HP	MP	Str	Def	Mag	Speed	Gold	Exp	Ability 1	Ability 2	Ability 3	Ability 4	Ability 5	Ability 6	NOTES
03 [3]	ミミック [Mimic]	Trick	9	80	50	60->100	60	20	22->35	100	220	Heal 1 (20%)	Poison (36%)	Petrify (30%)	Agility (10%)	HPCatcher (10%)
04 [4]	ドッパー [Dopper(?)]	Titan	13	210	0	65	100	40->55	50	120	264	NONE (0%)
05 [5]	エアゼリー [Air Jelly]	Coccoon	15	67	80	63	90->120	70->80	75->88	80	176	Heal2 (40%)	Poison (20%)	Defense1 (20%)	HPCatcher (20%)	Laser2(20%)	MPCatcher (10%)
07 [7]	ジャグラ [Jagura(?)]	Spidek	14	85	50	60->70	84	60->70	83->90	110	242	NONE (0%)	Poison (4->14%)	Defense2 (30%)
08 [8]	アンデトール [Unde[ad] Thor]	Undead	7	80	40	25->30	32	12	28	40	88	Heal1 (40%)	Revive1 (60%)					different sprite in US version
0D [13]	ヒートアイ [Heat Eye]	Despair	12	110->200	90	50->70	80->100	36->40	30	100	220	Heal1 (70%)	Petrify (10->20%)	F Bird (10%)
0E [14]	ブルーアイ [Blue Eye]	Doom	23	320	110	150->170	140->230	110->140	100	350	771	NONE (0%)	Fire2 (20%)	F Ball (20%)	MPCatcher (20%)
0F [15]	ダークアイ [Dark Eye]	Reaper	32	540->700	200	150	380	160	140	400	881	NONE (0%)	MPCatcher (10%)	Vacuum1 (8%)	F Ball (10%)
11 [17]	ソウルハード [Soul Hard]	Manrot	8	78	40	38->50	55	28	30	60	132	Heal1 (50%)	Ice1 (15%)	Petrify (10->20%)
15 [21]	アンデハート [Unde[ad] Heart]	Brain	12	128->158	150	50->65	85	50	32	130->220	286->484	NONE (0%)	Poison (5%)	Laser2 (10%)
17 [23]	トワイド [Towaido(?)]	Spirit	32	280	120	160->210	350	140	160	570	1255	Heal2 (30%)	Thunder1 (20%)	Thunder2 (20%)	NONE (0%) -> Agility (20%)
18 [24]	ストーンイーター [Stone Eater]	Crab	34->36	440	210	160->200	450	160	140	700	1542	NONE (0%)	Petrify (20%)	Defense2 (10%)	Ice2 (20%)
19 [25]	シージリア [Cecaelia]	Griffin	21	100	300	100->130	110->130	100	100	220	484	Heal2 (30%)	Poison (15%)	Petrify (10%)	Vacuum1 (4%)			different sprite in US version
1a [26]	アビッシュ [Abisshu(?)]	Android	8	80	50	32->40	40->45	5->15	34->45	40	88	Heal1 (50%)	HPCatcher (12->35%)
1b [27]	ヘルプリースト [Hell Priest]	Sage	16	110	100	80->90	110	60->110	65->80	150	330	Heal2 (80%)	MPCatcher (30%)	Revive2 (30%)	Defense2 (20%)	F Bird (10%)
1c [28]	ワァーロック [Warlock]	Wyrock	20	170	210	110	150	90->110	80	250	550	Heal2 (40%)	Ice2 (20%)	Blizzard1 (20%)	Petrify (20%)	Revive1 (20%)
1d [29]	アポロン [Apollon]	Flame	19	210->400	200	110->140	120	86	90	240->450	528->991	NONE (0%)	Fire2 (10%)	F Ball (10%)	F Bird (10%)			different sprite in US version
1e [30]	パイソン [Python]	Pison	8	250	15	32->40	40->50	14	30	120	264	Heal2 (95%)
1f [31]	レッドパイソン [Red Python]	R-Pison	14	280	20->30	90->120	92->100	61	40->55	1000	2203	Heal2 (80%)	NONE (0%) -> Blizzard2 (12%)
20 [32]	メタルパイソン [Metal Python]	M-Pison	30	700->2400	100->120	210->220	160->260	130->150	100	1000	2203	Heal3 (99%)	Petrify (10%)	Defense1 (30%)	Defense2 (30%)	MPCatcher (10%)	Vacuum1 (5->7%)
21 [33]	ラムス [Romus]	Romus	12	130->300	110	24->30	36->40	12	20	240	528	NONE (0%)	HPCatcher (20%)
22 [34]	ドロス [Doros]	Doros	34	1300->1800	200	120->140	190->220	100->130	110->130	1100	2423	Heal2 (99%)	Fire2 (10%)	F Ball (20%)	MPCatcher (20%)	NONE (0%) -> Vacuum1 (10%)
23 [35]	ルイーズ [Louise]	Serpent	32	1000->2000	220	110	170->220	90	100	1400	3084	Heal2 (50%) -> NONE (0%)	Ice1 (20%)	Blizzard1 (20%)	Petrify (20%)	MPCatcher (5%)	Defense2 (5%)	different sprite in US version
26 [38]	ガリウス [Garius(?)]	Gariso	40	2600->3000	220	140->160	200->250	138->150	140	2200	4846	Heal2 (40%)	Ice2 (10%)	F Ball (20%)	Vacuum2 (16%)			unused - no sprite loads
27 [39]	フォーマ [Foma(?)]	Foma	38	1440->1800	320	160->180	440->500	180	160->180	1700	3745	NONE (0%)	MPCatcher (10%)	Thunder1 (10%)	Thunder2 (10%)
28 [40]	ゴーシア [Gorsia(?)]	GORSIA	70	4000	255	500->600	1000->1400	250	250	0	0	Heal2 (60%)	Fire2 (10%)	Blizzard2 (10%)	Vacuum1 (10%)	F Ball (10%)	Ice2 (10%)	no sprite unless in final battle / different sprite in US version
2a [42]	スケルゴースト [Skel-Ghost]	Mutant	18	120->300	130	90->120	127	80->100	70	230	506	Heal2 (30%)	Blizzard1 (10%)	Revive1 (20%)	Ice1 (30%)	Petrify (20%)
2c [44]	フライングエイ [Flying Ray]	Manta	12	88	20->50	55	90	50	67	110	242	NONE (0%)	Agility (20%)
2d [45]	ストーンマスク [Stone Mask]	S.Witch	15	160	90	75	100->140	50	60	150	330	NONE (0%)	Petrify (30%)	Defense1 (10%)	Defense2 (10%)	MPCatcher (10%)
2e [46]	ブラックナイト [Black Knight]	B.Night	19	140	120	120->140	140	81	81	350	771	Heal2 (30%)	Defense1 (20%)	Ice2 (20%)	NONE (0%) -> Vaccuum2 (12%)
30 [48]	ゴースト [Ghost]	Chimera	6	40	30	8->11	5	2	30	16	35	NONE (0%)	MPCatcher (8%)
31 [49]	カオルソード [Carol(?) Sword]	Sword	24	4->9	200	200	1200->1800	150	100	500	1101	NONE (0%)	Defense2 (20%)	Vacuum1 (5%)	Petrify (30%)	MPCatcher (30%)		different sprite in US version
32 [50]	ドラゴン [Dragon]	Dragon	25	600->1100	230	100->110	170->220	100->110	50->80	1000	2203	NONE (0%)	Petrify (20%)	Defense1 (10%)	Defense2 (10%)	F Ball (10%)
33 [51]	ドロス [Doros]	Doros	34	1300->1500	200	120->140	190->220	100->130	110	1100	2423	Heal2 (99%)	Fire2 (10%)	F Ball (20%)	MPCatcher (20%)	NONE (0%) -> Vacuum1 (10%)
34 [52]	ガリウス [Garius(?)]	Gariso	40	2600->3000	220	140->160	200->250	138->150	140	2200	4846	Heal2 (40%)	Ice2 (10%)	F Ball (20%)	Vacuum2 (16%)			unused - no sprite loads
35 [53]	<> [<>]	GORSIA	70	4000	255	500->600	1000->1400	250	250	0	0	Heal2 (60%)	Fire2 (10%)	Blizzard2 (10%)	Vacuum1 (10%)	F Ball (10%)	Ice2 (10%)	no sprite unless in final battle / different sprite in US version
36 [54]	<> [<>]	GORSIA	70	4000	255	500->600	1000->1400	250	250	0	0	Heal2 (60%)	Fire2 (10%)	Blizzard2 (10%)	Vacuum1 (10%)	F Ball (10%)	Ice2 (10%)	no sprite unless in final battle / different sprite in US version
37 [55]	<> [<>]	GORSIA	70	4000	255	500->600	1000->1400	250	250	0	0	Heal2 (60%)	Fire2 (10%)	Blizzard2 (10%)	Vacuum1 (10%)	F Ball (10%)	Ice2 (10%)	no sprite unless in final battle / different sprite in US version
3d [61]	プレーター [Plater]	Plater	19	210	0		160->190	71	70	200	440	NONE (0%)
3e [62]	フェイスロック [Face Rock]	Falock	36->44	600	80	220->330	420->600	126	120	480	1057	NONE (0%)	Agility (10%)
40 [64]	ブルートール [Blue Thor]	B.Demon	10	80	50	46->60	50	30	30	75	165	Heal1 (30%)	Defense1 (20%)	Fire1 (10%)	Poison (10%)
41 [65]	レッドトール [Red Thor]	R.Demon	18	120	70	85->100	100->150	60	74	210	462	Heal2 (40%)	Defense1 (10%)	Fire2 (10%)	F Bird (20%)	NONE (0%) -> Blizzard2 (10%)
42 [66]	シルバートール [Silver Thor]	S.Demon	35->38	320	210	180->210	420->480	180	180	600	1321	Heal3 (30%)	Revive1 (60%)	Fire2 (20%)	Defense2 (20%)
43 [67]	レッドハンド [Red Hand]	R.Trick	16	110	80	66->80	100	65->80	70	200	440	NONE (0%)	Poison (30%)	Vacuum1 (10%)	F Bird (20%)	HPCatcher (20%)
44 [68]	キラーハンド [Killer Hand]	K.Trick	20	170->300	180	90->120	100	80	90	400	881	Heal2 (30%)	Poison (20%)	HPCatcher (20%)	Ice2 (10%)	Blizzard2 (10%)
46 [70]	キリシア [Kirisha/ Kilicia(?)]	Serpant	31	240	170	140->160	300	150->200	180	550	1211	Heal2 (50%)	Petrify (20%)	MPCatcher (15%)	Blizzard2 (25%)			different sprite in US version
47 [71]	バーミン [Vermin]	Serpint	35->39	320	50->150	180	400->500	160	170	670	1476	NONE (0%)	MPCatcher (20%)	Petrify (80%)	NONE (0%) -> Revive1 (50%)			different sprite in US version
48 [72]	シルバーハート [Silver Heart]	S.Brain	17	400	100	100->130	150	80	60	400->800	881->1762	Heal2 (10%)	MPCatcher (20%)	HPCatcher (20%)	Vacuum1 (10%)
4a [74]	ゴーガン [Gorgon]	Goron	35->40	1900->2600	220	230	520	170	160	3000	6609	NONE (0%)	Blizzard2 (20%)
4c [76]	スケルトン [Skeleton]	Unded	25	210->550	100	100->160	140->220	120	140	500	1101	Heal2 (60%)	Revive1 (60%)	HPCatcher (10%)	Vacuum1 (7%)			different sprite in US version
4d [77]	ガラスン [Garasun(?)]	Undeed	34->40	320	100	200->240	420	170	160	600	1321	Heal3 (10%)	Revive1 (70%)	MPCatcher (10%)				different sprite in US version
4e [78]	カルド [Karudo(?)]	K.Moon	25	450	220	140	210	112	90	300	660	NONE (0%)	Fire2 (30%)	F Ball (30%)				different sprite in US version
4f [79]	フレイム [Flame]	F.Night	36->43	400	130	240->340	470->550	150	150	640	1410	NONE (0%)	Fire2 (30%)	F Ball (30%)				different sprite in US version
50 [80]	ポラゾン [Poison]	P.Moon	23	180->440	80	120	110	120	210	210	462	NONE (0%)	Poison (40%)	MPCatcher (20%)	Petrify (8%)
51 [81]	ベアーナイト [Bear(?) Knight]	V.Night	26	350	120	150	260->300	120	110	320	705	Heal3 (10%)	Fire2 (20%)	Defense1 (10%)	F Ball (20%)
52 [82]	ケインナイト [Kein(?) Knight]	K.Night	33->35	380	200	170	420->440	150	170->210	600	1321	Heal2 (30%)	Ice2 (20%)	Blizzard2 (10%)	Defense1 (3%)
53 [83]	デスナイト [Death Knight]	D.Night	37->45	270->600	100	240->400	500->650	160	190	740	1630	Heal3 (30%)	Petrify (10%)	Defense2 (10%)	MPCatcher (10%)	HPCatcher (10%)
54 [84]	フェイスキッド [Face Kid]	F.Witch	32	300	140	160	380	160	130	550	1211	NONE (0%)	Petrify (20%)	Vacuum2 (10->16%)
56 [86]	ダーガン [Dargan(?)]	Dergun	30	280	0	150	300->360	140	130	500	1101	NONE (0%)
57 [87]	ドーガス [Dorgas(?)]	Dogun	32->34	320	110->100	160->180	380	160	160	500	1101	Heal3 (10->80%)
58 [88]	マンモー [Mammoth(?)]	Monmo	33	450->750	220	160	950->1600	122	120	2000	4406	Heal2 (40%)	MPCatcher (30%)	HPCatcher (30%)	Petrify (20%)
59 [89]	カシアン [Kashian/ Cassian(?)]	Griffan	35->45	2200->3400	220	220->240	480	200	170	4000	8812	NONE (0%)	Petrify (20%)	Vacuum2 (10%)	Blizzard2 (10%)			different sprite in US version
5e [94]	ウィルミー [Wilme]	Wilme	20	200	220	50	44	0	22	0	0	Heal1 (50%)	Fire1 (30%)					loads stats from elsewhere, different sprite in US version
61 [97]	レジース [Lejes]	Lejes	20	140	220	80	94	0	72	700	1542	Heal2 (80%)	Fire1 (10%)	Fire2 (10%)	Vacuum1 (7%)	Petrify (10%)	MPCatcher (10%)	loads stats from elsewhere, different sprite in US version